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*shudder*
That amount of 'meh' when it comes to things of pretty damn huge importance is scary for someone who is that far into politics. What else does he just go 'meh' on.
"Senator, education really isn't working too well in this country, it's becoming harder and harder to afford a tertiary education here, what do you say?"
"Meh"
I bet he's real concerned about anything that affects the size of his paycheque though.
i like how the senator himself associates low-iq with religion, despite being religious himself.
A couple of points:
1) I don't think it's established that it's a snake. Pretty sure it's a talking animal so this is a technicality, but that it's a snake is a myth. I think QI covered this and they are actually are beyond question.
2) I don't believe in evolution. OK, I agree in general, but does it explain what it aims to accurately and completely? I very much doubt it. In fact I'd be amazed if the original work wasn't mostly discredited by now, just like much of Newton's work, Einstein's work and so on. Darwin's work was certainly a big step in the evolution of knowledge
If you think about it, it's arrogant to the point of ludicrous to presume this generation has all the big stuff figured it. I'm sure as hell* not a Christian or Creationist, I just think science is a work in progress and we're at a pretty early stage. I hope so! I quit Christianity when I grew out of invisible friends, but I didn't become an atheist just to join other zealots. Science is our friend, but keep questioning.
* Pun / Ironic choice of phrase intentional.
The common Chewbacca Defense is based on the following misconceptions and/or fallacies:
* If you can prove the other side wrong, it makes you right.
* If you can word your statements and arguments in a way that is too confusing, intelligent-sounding, or nonsensical for the opponent to respond to, it makes them wrong and it makes you right.
* If you can shock or confuse your opponent and make them think you are a lost cause and not worth arguing with, you are right.
* If you can make an opponent look bad, their logic must be equally as bad, and therefore you are right.
* If you are more popular than your opponent, it makes them wrong and it makes you right.
* If you just keep arguing and shouting, even if everyone else (not just everyone else in the debate - everyone else in the world) thinks you are not just wrong, but insane, until everyone else just gets tired of listening to you spew nonsense, you're the last man standing, and, by default, you are right.
Great ending, I was worried the title was flame bait.
A couple of points:
1) I don't think it's established that it's a snake. Pretty sure it's a talking animal so this is a technicality, but that it's a snake is a myth. I think QI covered this and they are actually are beyond question.
2) I don't believe in evolution. OK, I agree in general, but does it explain what it aims to accurately and completely? I very much doubt it. In fact I'd be amazed if the original work wasn't mostly discredited by now, just like much of Newton's work, Einstein's work and so on. Darwin's work was certainly a big step in the evolution of knowledge
If you think about it, it's arrogant to the point of ludicrous to presume this generation has all the big stuff figured it. I'm sure as hell not a Christian or Creationist, I just think science is a work in progress and we're at a pretty early stage. I hope so! I quit Christianity when I grew out of invisible friends, but I didn't become an atheist just to join other zealots. Science is our friend, but keep questioning.
Pun / Ironic choice of phrase intentional.
You might find interesting this fascinating study this summer of unexpected evolution in bacteria cultures in the lab.
The study caused a bit of a controversy, with the folks at Conservapedia (like Wikipedia but for blowhards
*flies upwards*
What senator is this, and what state? I can't tell for sure, but the flag looks like it might be Georgia.Edit: Never mind, the YouTube description says it is Arkansas Senator Mark Pryor.
I wonder if his Dad is as "gifted"
G2) I don't believe in evolution. OK, I agree in general, but does it explain what it aims to accurately and completely? I very much doubt it. In fact I'd be amazed if the original work wasn't mostly discredited by now, just like much of Newton's work, Einstein's work and so on. Darwin's work was certainly a big step in the evolution of knowledge
The reason Evolution isn't discredited yet is the same reason Gravity wasn't discredited by Einstein: both are facts of life, however you choose to explain them. Why Darwin's work isn't discredited yet is the same reason Euclides' work isn't either: they're basic algorithms for solving precise problems. Unless the problems themselves change (more precisely our understanding of the problems), the solutions don't either.
Both Euclides and Newton ignored a pretty important variable: the three dimensional nature of space (four for space-time). That is why their algorithms were updated later by, among others, Riemann and Einstein. Darwin gave an algorithm for the Evolution of Life. It has been updated since, but there hasn't been a "three-dimensional" revolution yet (it's still a young theory by any standard, and note that the Theory of relativity hasn't been discredited yet either on macroscopic levels) . Even with that kind of revolution though, we would still talk about Evolution, just as we still talk about Gravity.
[edit] Oh, he'll be running essentially unopposed this November - Green Party candidate Rebekah Kennedy will be the only challenger. Funny you should mention his father, Zonbie. His dad, David Pryor, had previously held that office for 3 terms.
Great ending, I was worried the title was flame bait.
A couple of points:
1) I don't think it's established that it's a snake. Pretty sure it's a talking animal so this is a technicality, but that it's a snake is a myth. I think QI covered this and they are actually are beyond question.
2) I don't believe in evolution. OK, I agree in general, but does it explain what it aims to accurately and completely? I very much doubt it. In fact I'd be amazed if the original work wasn't mostly discredited by now, just like much of Newton's work, Einstein's work and so on. Darwin's work was certainly a big step in the evolution of knowledge
If you think about it, it's arrogant to the point of ludicrous to presume this generation has all the big stuff figured it. I'm sure as hell not a Christian or Creationist, I just think science is a work in progress and we're at a pretty early stage. I hope so! I quit Christianity when I grew out of invisible friends, but I didn't become an atheist just to join other zealots. Science is our friend, but keep questioning.
Pun / Ironic choice of phrase intentional.
2) evolution doesn't have a design it works toward... there is no intelligent design inherent in it... when something evolves, the whole species doesn't just all take the same path... multiple mutations usually occur and those most suited for survival (those that are most beneficial) usually proliferate through breeding... there is no one right answer per se for mutation... multiple mutated strains may develop and evolve away from each other... or 1 mutation may be the most beneficial and while incoroporating other mutations will seem dominant...
the thing about science and theory is that it usually works like this... a huge generalization is made... this is then either proven or disproven to be true (reproduceable and the generalization holds true with a high degree of repetition).... if disprove... there was something QUITE wrong with the generalization in the first place... if proven, that doesn't mean that this generalization has everything right... it just means that it holds true for the vast majority of cases... this does leave room for further refinement and understanding... but it is very rare (though it has happened) that a false generalization holds true long enough for refinements to occur to the point where they realize the generalization was wrong...
the thing is, that science will not cling to a generalization simply because it is what has been assumed for some time... if there is proof either way... either refinements or complete rethinkings occur
see the motion of the planets/solar system and the theories involved for this overall concept
thats the problem i have with religions... the faith is supposed to be blind, but the religion shouldn't blind those that follow it... truth isn't limited to religion... that being said I'm obviously aware that there is the same range of closed mindedness on either side of the discussion... just as there is open mindedness
but if a person can hands-down believe in a talking serpent because a single book said so, you'd think they wouldn't limit themselves to being so ignorant of something like evolution when THOUSANDS of books, journals, and scientific magazines explain it
I suspect more than a few 'religious' politicians are merely religious out of political expediency (Obama, McCain anyone?).
Why wonder when you can know? I would bet dollars to donuts you don't even understand how evolution works. Reading a wikipedia article on evolution and believing you understand the theory is like.....reading a wikipedia article on quantum mechanics and believing you understand the theory. And no, high school biology does not give a sufficient explanation of the theory...
Atheist attack pack:
How evolution began: "Richard Dawkins: The Blind Watchmaker"
How evolution proceeded, in theory: "Richard Dawkins: The Selfish Gene"
How evolution proceeded, with empirical examples: "Richard Dawkins: Ancestor's Tale"
Why you don't have to be afraid of evolution: "Richard Dawkins: The God Delusion"
How religion began, and proceeded: "Daniel Dennett: Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon"
Why you shouldn't believe in religion: "Sam Harris: Letter to a Christian Nation"
If your religion/current beliefs on evolution can survive that reading list......hats off to your level of conviction/faith/denial.
Basically, I do believe in evolution, I was being sensationalist before and I apologise, I would expect better from others frankly! I just meant that I don't believe we've got everything figured out and I'm sure evolution isn't 100% there. It may be 90% there which is about 90% closer than a certain other belief, but science will always be a work in progress and that's a good thing.
- Thanks for the link, chilaxe, that seems to be exactly what I mean. Not quite sure how a step in the evolution of evolution is proof of creationism but they've made less sense than this.
I'd like to add one to that list if I may. "Origin of Species" by Charles Darwin.
"believe in a talking snake" then it cuts, the senators comment is not related to bill's snake comment. if u listen to the senators uneasy laugh again, u can tell its dubbed. to bad, toooo bad.
listen to :42 and on a couple times, u'll see what i meen
If your religion/current beliefs on evolution can survive that reading list......hats off to your level of conviction/faith/denial.
I'd like to add one to that list if I may. "Origin of Species" by Charles Darwin.
Who?
This is what happens people who are educated by their T.V. deign to concern themselves with politics.
Bill Maher is a comedy huckster, not Pliny the Elder people... I can't believe how many of you posted your 'Oh my God the right wingers are so so so dumb!' and then get the rug yanked out from under you by me...
http://pryor.senate.gov/ - The Senator's Government Website
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Pryor - A Wiki article about him.
So if we're still standing on the rug you thought you pulled out from under us, Asshaton, what's that in your hands? Oh my! It looks like...an EPIC FAIL! Thanks for adding to the comedy, you silly twat.
http://pryor.senate.gov/photos/gallery.cfm
Hurray for others who have the tinsiest ability to research.
And what state would this United States 'Senator' be from... I checked... the answer? None! This is FICTION!
This is what happens people who are educated by their T.V. deign to concern themselves with politics.
Bill Maher is a comedy huckster, not Pliny the Elder people... I can't believe how many of you posted your 'Oh my God the right wingers are so so so dumb!' and then get the rug yanked out from under you by me...
Does this sound like anyone we already know on here? Hmmm...